Admiral Wilson describes an alien spacecraft program

01. 04. 2020
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In an interview between Vice Admiral Thomas Wilson and Dr. Eric Davis of 2002 revealed that one large airline had re-engineered a crashed alien vessel. Wilson first learned of the UFO Classified Program through a document from the National Exploration Office (NRO), which he met at a confidential meeting on April 10, 1997, with Dr. Wilson. Steven Greer, Dr. Edgar Mitchell and Navy Commander Willard Miller.

A recently published transcript describes what Admiral Wilson [TW] said to Dr. Davis [EWD] about his efforts to find out the truth about the classified UFO program and related reverse engineering work, which he was alerted to at the April meeting.

EWD: Well, what happened between April and June 1997?

TW: After I broke up with Miller (a week later, he thinks) - I called or went around a few people - I continued for 45 days. Ward (Gen. M. Ward) recommended that I review the program records (something like an index system) from OUSDAT (the Office of the Minister of Defense for Acquisition and Technology). In May 97, I accidentally met Bill Perry - we talked about it in peace and suggested the same. They told me about a group of special project records that are not regular SAPs - it's a special subset of discarded programs - not regular SAP divisions as organized by Perry in '94 - they are set apart from the others but buried under regular SAPs.

Wilson spoke about different categories of special access programs (SAP) where the most important ones - the deferred ones were hidden behind conventional SAP programs.

The method of covering the most secret programs behind the less important ones was confirmed in one of the NSA documents Sentry Eagle, which was betrayed by Edward Snowden. He graphically depicted how Exceptionally Compartmented Information (ECI - similar classification status to unrecognized SAP in the Pentagon) hides under information outside the ECI program (classified similarly to SAP used by the Pentagon).

The NSA escaped a picture showing the SENTRY EAGLE program where various programs classified by DHS, DOD and NSA are hidden under less classified national programs. (NSA)

Wilson continued to describe the airline that was working on a classified reverse engineering event without naming it:

EWD: Who was the project partner or the USG agency that runs the program?

TW: Aircraft technology supplier - one of the best in the US

EWD: Who?

TW: It's secret - I can't say that

EWD: Defense Contractor?

TW: Yes, the best of them.

"Best of them" clearly points to Lockheed Martin - Skunkworks, which has a long and successful history of working on top flight programs. For example, Ben Rich, a former director of Skunkworks, liked to finish his lectures saying, "Now we have the technology to take ETho home".

A film by which Ben Rich previously completed his lectures with a commentary on ETho's return home

Wilson then explained what happened when he found out which company was running a classified UFO program and when he contacted her to gain access:

EWD: What happened when you found a supplier?

TW: I made a few phone calls (late May 97), first with Paul, Mike and Perry to confirm that I had the right vendor and program manager to talk to.

EWD: Did they confirm that?

TW: Yes.

EWD: Then what?

TW: (End of May 97) I had three calls with the Program Manager - one of which was a conference call with the Security Director and Company Attorney.

There was a disappointment on their part about why I had found them and what I wanted or learned from them. Everyone was very irritable.

Wilson further explains how these three company representatives (program manager, security director and lawyer) have denied him access to the UFO's secret program:

TW: I told this trio that I wanted a formal briefing, excursion, etc. - using their regulatory authority as Deputy Director of the DIA / Assistant Chief of Staff J-2. I told them that not being informed was a mistake to be corrected - I demanded it!

TW: They had to consult about it, so they ended the call. They called 2 days later saying that they did not want to talk on the phone and arranged a personal meeting in their company.

EWD: Did you go there?

TW: Yes, ten days later (roughly mid-June). I flew there. We met in a conference room in a secure area. The three have arrived.

EWD: Three men with whom you had a teleconference?

TW: Yes, the same ones. Security Director (retired from NSA, CI expert), Program Director, Corporate Lawyer. They were called the Watch Comitee, or the Gatekeepers, the gate guard.

Wilson describes how the "supervisory committee" told him about the accident from previous years, when the entire program was almost revealed. In agreement with the Pentagon Special Access Programs Supervisory Committee (SAPOC), an existing security system was then established. Under this agreement, suppliers (enterprises) operating certain categories of SAP programs were authorized to restrict access to UFO-related programs to Pentagon officials, regardless of their status and authority:

- [TW] He said that after this episode a formal agreement with the Pentagon people (SAPOC) was concluded to prevent this from happening in the future - they did not want it to happen again

Specific criteria were agreed:

- Special circumstance which must meet the strict access criteria set by the Supply Committee,

- none of the USG personnel is allowed to gain access without meeting the criteria - this is the responsibility of the Supplier Committee (Program Director, Lawyer, Security Director), regardless of the authority and position that USG personnel have

- take it or leave it.

The "Supervisory Committee" told Admiral Wilson that although he was Deputy Director of DIA and Deputy Intelligence for Chiefs of Staff, he was not on the "Bigot List". Here is a list of people who are authorized to know the details and be informed about the UFO program:

TW: They said my permissions and credentials are correct and valid, but I am not on the bigot list. That means it's not enough. I did not meet the special criteria, so they told me that no authorization was granted….

TW: We kept arguing - however, my arguments that they fall under my statutory oversight and regulatory authority as Deputy Director of the DIA - that I have the right to information (supervision, audit, justification issues etc. etc.) were not recognized. Regulatory and statutory authority as Deputy Director of the DIA is not relevant to or does not apply to their program! Then they pulled out their bigot list to convince me - it had several pages and was dated to 1990, with an update in 1993.

The transcript continues to describe Wilson and Davis' conversation about the names on the bigot list, and who in the Pentagon and the White House was allowed access to the information:

EWD: Who was on that list? Did you know the names?

TW: That's a secret.

I can tell you that most of them were program employees - names and titles (job titles) - civilians - I didn't know any defense personnel - but they could be there.

EWD: Any politician?

TW: No. No names from the White House, no president! None of the congress, none of the congress staff.

EDW: Anyone on Clinton or Bush Sr.?

TW: No! But I recognized a few names from the Pentagon - a few from OUSDAT, one from another department, another NSC person who is a SES Pentagon employee.

To his amazement, Wilson learned that no member of the legislature (Congress) or the executive (White House) had been informed of the UFO corporate program. Only a few Pentagon officials were allowed access. This confirms what Greer and others have claimed for decades about the unconstitutional nature of the system developed to keep UFOs secret.

The transcript further discusses how Wilson attempted to gain access to information through another ongoing program that fell under his official area of ​​responsibility as Deputy Director of DIA:

- [TW] The Program Manager said it was not an arms and intelligence program, no special operations or logistics program.

Finally, Wilson was told it was a reverse engineering program to reconstruct a crashed alien UFO, exactly what Greer, Mitchell, and Miller had told him at a meeting on April 10, 1997. Wilson expressed his surprise. Originally, he thought that the term UFO was just a cover for the acquisition of aviation technology developed by the USSR or China. I asked what it was. There was a loud groan from the Program Manager. But the Security Director and the lawyer said they could give me information.

EWD: Tell what?

TW: It was a reverse engineering program - something that had been acquired in the past, and technological hardware was preserved. So I thought it was the reverse engineering of some Soviet / Chinese, etc. technology - rockets, intel platforms or aircraft - "UFOs" I thought of as a code name. So I told them and they said it wasn't. They had a vessel (the program manager spoke) - an intact vessel they believed could fly… The program manager said they didn't know where it was coming from (they just thought) - it was technology, not from our Earth - not created by man - was not created by human hands.

Wilson further described how they spoke of the major difficulties the corporation was facing in its reverse engineering program:

  • [TW] They said they were trying to understand and exploit the technology: their program had been running for years with very slow progress
  • Extremely slow with little or no results - painful lack of cooperation in getting help from the outside community of professionals and companies - must remain isolated and use their own equipment and proven staff - very harsh working environment - about 400-800 (number from the bigot list) workers, diverse depending on the financial funds or personnel changes.

When Wilson threatened to turn to the Special Access Programs Supervision Committee (SAPOC), he was told by the Committee to do what he considered appropriate. Finally, he was denied access by the Senior Review Group, which has been set up by the SAPOC Pentagon Committee to oversee special access programs:

TW: Before the last week of June 1997, they told me (TW) that they were protecting contractors so that I could leave the matter immediately - let me forget everything because I had no right to information, it was not my competence etc. I was very angry - he was silent, I started screaming… The Senior Review Group said that if I did not obey, I would not be promoted to DIA director, risking early retirement and losing one or two stars. I was really incredibly angry - totally dialed !!! Why do they make such a big deal about the credibility that I have in the Pentagon - I have the appropriate regulatory / legal authority over their program - it's my position !!!

The refusal to grant access was a critical moment when Wilson realized that the corporation was supported by a strong Pentagon-connected group to hide its extraterrestrial spacecraft's engineering program as unrecognized / deferred SAP, hidden in the labyrinth of conventional SAP by Pentagon and its corporate suppliers.

The refusal was ultimately the reason why Wilson believed that UFO cabal / MJ-12 was in charge of UFO-related projects, and even senior DIA officials and staff chiefs were out of the picture. He also told Commander Miller in June 1997, who in turn sent his conclusions to Steven Greer and Edgar Mitchell. They revealed further details in the next two decades.

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