We are in the San Fernado Valley and we will talk to Enrique Villanueva. He accepted our invitation as a guest of a series in which people, mainly from Latin America, talk about their encounters with extraterrestrial beings. They share information and experiences with us voluntarily. I want to ask Enrique first: Are you from Peru, can you tell us something about yourself?

- I was born in Lima, the capital of Peru. I first saw an alien ship when I was 7 years old. I played outside in front of the house with friends. We noticed the lights and then the lightning so bright that the night was suddenly like day. I was outraged. A few days later, another ship approached. I was close to the house and I saw the children running on the road. I ran after them, trying to figure out what it was. We noticed a thing that looked like two touching plates and moved very quietly and fast at the same time. I remember as adults they remembered the alien invasion. We were small and we asked, what is it? What is an alien? What is UFO? I think that was the first description of something like that. My father has always been interested in paranormal phenomena.

- So it was your father. What was it?

- He worked as a doctor for the police. He was a member of the Order of the Rosicrucians, then belonged to the Gnostics, later to the Freemasons. He was interested in various ways of awakening consciousness. When I was born, the library in our house was already full of various books from these areas. And when I first saw the alien spaceships, I asked my father and he just pointed to the library and said - here are a lot of books to look for. And so I went from information about UFOs to yoga and astral travel. I was very curious and I remember my first experience with astral travel. I was suddenly spontaneously out of my body somewhere else. At first I was afraid of it and I didn't know how to control it. Later I learned several techniques, but I found that the astral plain has the same limitations as this physical world. I have not attained any opening of consciousness there, this can only be achieved in this physical world when I experience my physical presence. So I moved away from astral travel, focused on meditation, and tried to understand the meaning of existence. From the 12th to the 16th year of my life I was looking for. At 16, I started seeing UFOs. Every time I went out on the roof of our house, I saw lights. I wasn't sure what it could be, maybe a UFO. It was too high for me to recognize. It was like the stars moving, crossing their paths or moving crosswise across the sky. In meditation, I sent the idea that I was looking for a friend up there. I don't feel at home here, maybe someone will be interested and we'll talk about it. I then had astral experiences with them. They called me first. It was like this: One afternoon I was resting when I suddenly heard the phone ring. I asked if anyone would pick it up. But no one was in the house. So I ran to the phone, picked up the phone, and the voice said to me: Did you want a friend? We are in the Solar System, see you soon. I was surprised, I was expecting something in my mind, some form of telepathy, and this is over the phone. Then I hung up and the phone kept ringing. I realized I wasn't there. I was still in my body, resting in bed. I got up immediately, now in my physical body, and ran to the phone, which was still ringing. I picked up the phone, but no one answered. But I had a strong feeling that the communication really took place. They used the phone symbol to let me know they wanted to get closer. And I was open to such an experience. Then, in Peru, they broadcast on TV channel 4 on the RAMA group.

- Let's get closer to this group, it's a band around Sixth Paz Wells.

- It's a group of people contacting aliens. In 1974, brothers Sixto and Charlie Paz began contacting the aliens and were invited to their spaceship. Sixto and the whole community have experienced meetings at different levels.

- Are these creatures similar to people?

- They look like people. At this point, I have more questions than answers. I can only say what I experienced myself, what I understood from it, but I am not 100% sure of their origin and I still question some of my own experiences.

- You remember they called you. And then you decided to join the RAMA group, that was your intention. What followed?

- RAMA was a closed group at the time. They didn't want me to attend their meetings. I had no preparation for it. They told me that I needed at least a year of preparation to get to meet the aliens. I decided to go to one meeting despite the ban. My father and I went to the Chilec desert that day, but we got lost in the middle of the desert and didn't get to the meeting place. When we came back to the city, the whole city was without electricity. It was common at the time because it was terrorism at the time. It used to be terrible, terrorists used to turn off electricity sources, so we assumed that this time it was a terrorist attack, we were used to it. So we came to the city as if nothing was happening. I remember going home and putting a candle to the bed. Then I heard the vibration of the sound, something like zzzzz. It seemed very strong to me. I realized that the dogs also perceive it because they started barking loudly. I went downstairs to my brother and asked him if he heard it. He heard nothing. I said that I probably hear just like dogs, I felt something. I went upstairs to lie down. I had a very strong experience at night. I met two little creatures. They took me to their ship. I was small too. We took off, showed me the base on the far side of the moon. There they explained a lot of things about the solar system and the extraterrestrial bases in it. It was so much information that when I woke up, I was shocked. I didn't want to talk about it with family or friends, I needed to be with someone who would understand me. That's when I decided to become a member of the RAMA group. I went to them and told them my experiences. I told them my dreams, I told them about a special book with many symbols, and they told me that they knew about it and that they had received such information many years ago. They talked about the chronicle of Akash and how it relates to the history of mankind and ancient civilizations on our planet. I confronted information from both sources and became a member of RAMA. A few weeks later, we had a meeting with the new members of the group for the first time, because I joined the group with other young people my age. There were 15 of us in the Chilc Desert at midnight. We saw the lights approaching us. They were at the top of the mountain in a group, then some fell, others took off, and others moved sideways. One of the ships approached us. There were two girls in our group, one of them was very stressed and nervous, she started crying. Then the ship stopped and began to descend about 15 m from us. I wanted to run to her. Our instructor Edwin Greta told us not to approach.

- Was it at night?

- Yes, last night, it was the first meeting with the new group. Later, these meetings were common. Every time we went into the desert, we saw them. It started to bore me a little. It was not enough for me to just see the ships, I wanted to experience something more. I have dedicated all my training time in RAMA. I became a vegetarian, I meditated a lot, I did breathing exercises and other things that we were recommended in the group. I wanted to have a deeper experience. I tried automatic typing. Our new group did not have an antenna. An antenna is a person who can open a telepathic channel and receive information about the whole group. There was no one like that in our group yet, and I thought it might be me. I took a pen and paper just like Sixto did years ago.

- Auto fonts can also draw different shapes.

- Yes, exactly, you feel the impulse and then the thoughts come and you feel like you want to write. I've never experienced it before, but I knew how to do it. I sat down with a pen and paper and waited. I opened and cleared my mind, and 15 minutes later nothing came. Only a kind of energy passed through my shoulders. The next day I tried again and felt someone's presence. I looked around, but nothing happened. The third night at 11 o'clock, I said to myself that I would try it for the last time. If nothing happens even today, it will never happen. I had paper and a pen in front of me, I closed my eyes, I cleared my mind. I felt a stream of energy again, someone's presence. I was still waiting and now I felt the presence of someone very strongly. I opened my eyes to see if anyone was in the room. I thought it might be my father or brother that they woke up and went to the kitchen.

- Was it at night?

- Yes, at night, every night it was at the same time at 11 o'clock. No one was there. I grabbed my pen and paper again, closed my eyes, and then I felt someone approaching behind me. The strange thing was that I saw his hands approach even though my eyes were closed. I saw my hands approach the back of my head. Energy flowed from my palms through my skull zzzz - zzzz. The third stream of energy was like an explosion on my forehead. I opened my eyes. Someone was standing on the other side of the room. I was shocked. I didn't expect it. I waited for a voice in my mind to tell me something, but instead there was someone in my room. I wanted to run. My heart was beating very fast.

- Was he seen through him? Was he transparent?

- It was not translucent, but around the body was something like a contour of light. It was not aura, it was something else.

- Was not it a hologram?

- It could be something like that. I have not touched him. But I saw the light around him. It was very high about 1,90 m.

- What hair? What was it?

- He had straight hair long over his shoulder.

- Have they been light or dark?

- They're white.

- White?

- Just like the old guys. But he was not old at all. He looked like a trident.

- Something like a platinum blonde.

- Yes, something like that.

- And what did he look like next?

- Like Mongol, an oriental type. He had Chinese eyes and high cheekbones. He looked very much like a man, he was exotically beautiful. Although he wore a silk tunic, his athletic figure was clearly visible.

- What color was his tunic?

- White.

- So he was dressed in white.

- Yes, he was standing there like I said. I was shocked, I didn't expect it. I felt that if it went on like this, I would collapse for a while. I could feel my heart in my throat. I waited, he didn't say anything. I opened my mouth and said, "Will you say something so that I can write it down?" I wanted to break the ice because I didn't feel well, the atmosphere was terrible. Then he looked at me and I felt the energy coming from him. I did not see it, although I saw the contour of the light that surrounded it. I felt his brotherly love flood me. It was a very strong feeling. My brain immediately translated it as "little brother." Those were his first words. I felt it, I felt he was my brother, I had no doubt about it. He felt as if he were saying, I will not hurt you, I will do you no harm, relax, I am here to embrace you. And then I relaxed, everything fell out of me. But it was strange that I couldn't ask the million questions I had before he came. Then he said to me: I had to come down because you're not an antenna. Go back to the group and explain what happened. Tell them about how to prepare for communication. We are ready. There is already someone among you who has an open channel, we want him to prepare. Go and tell them how it works and you'll see.

- A technique…

- No, he just told me to go to the group. And then he added: Every time I want to do something for a group, they will be ready to help me. Then came a moment of silence, waiting for me to say something. I wanted to talk, but I couldn't. He just smiled at me. Then the contour of the light around him brightened and his image disappeared in a dot. Just like old TVs, when you turn them off and the picture disappears. I wondered if it really happened or what was going on in my brain.

- When he talked to you, did you see his mouth move or did you see it in your mind?

- My brain translates feelings into my own language.

- Did it sound like your voice or was his voice different?

- It's more listening, it's not sound. Although we can combine voice with sound because we are used to talking to ourselves, but in reality it is not sound, it is more a feeling that our brain translates into words close to us.

- Because he spoke Spanish.

- I spoke Spanish, he spoke in feelings.

- It's interesting. These visits were in different countries, but that does not mean that these people go to school and learn all the languages. Rather, they have a way of conveying thoughts and feelings that we can accept them in our own language, right?

- Yes, I think it's telepathy. It is not just the transmission of words and thoughts, but the transmission of feelings. And I think feelings are a deeper level of thinking. They are thinking that includes all living things.

- This kind of communication is very important, Enrique, because if we could communicate on Earth in this way, we would not be lying, there would be no misunderstandings, we would all be in the same position, which would help break down all communication barriers on this planet.

- We will probably understand in the future that there is no reason to be afraid of each other. If we can perceive the other, we will not need to attack anyone. I was stressed because I was expecting an attack, because it was something unknown to me. But when he let me feel my brotherly love, I relaxed and accepted it.

- Okay, we ended up telling you to go back to your group and that you're not an antenna. What happened then?

- I went back to my group. They played table tennis. I remember that at that time I had no desire to engage in meditation at all, I insisted on what we should do. I told them what had happened, but most didn't believe me. They said it was impossible for anyone to be in my room. However, I said that it may never have happened in RAMA before, but it really happened to me. But they still just played ping-pong. But then came Victor Venides. He traveled on business for 2 weeks. He came back and was the only one who responded to my story and said: Enrique, how did you do that? And I said, "Let's go to the living room, I'll show you how." I brought a pen and paper. - I'm not an antenna, but that's how it should be done. Just repeat it all day. - I told him I tried it at night and this happened, but I couldn't say the same thing would happen to him. - Try it and see what happens. - Try it. The next day, as he was traveling by bus to work, something happened to him. He began to feel the thoughts in his head and couldn't control them, he took a piece of paper, I think it was a napkin, and he started writing out of control. This is how the first two weeks went. Wherever he was, he received information, sometimes even writing on his hands. He could control it later and was calmer when he received the information. He was an antenna.

- So he was the band's antenna. How long did you belong to the group?

- We've been together for the next two years. Through Victor, we received many invitations to Marcy, a place high in the Andes, where meetings and communication took place with these creatures, later to Nazca south of Lima, various places already known for visits from other planets. Aliens seem to use special spirals to move around the Earth.

- It looks like there is a net on the planet and they use these spirals to move. Did they tell you where they came from?

- I have already mentioned that I could not clear my mind enough to ask them questions. I sometimes asked them, but in a different context. Sometimes during the meditation I saw them clearly and I was so calm that I was able to ask them. I accepted the idea that they came from a base on one of the planets in the solar system. Sixto and RAMA pointed to different places in the universe. They said that some bases were colonies of Orion, others formed colonies on Venus. Not that life came directly from Venus, they created it artificially.

I wasn't sure, I was just open, it was two years after I was in the RAMA group. During meditation, I met one of the beings named Sordas.

- How did he call?

- Sordas. According to information, the RAMA came from one of the planets of the constellation Alpha Centauri. These are things I can't prove, because they belong to the general knowledge of the RAMA group.

Sordas was in front of me and I had so many questions that I couldn't ask then, I was very disappointed. I remember telling him: - You came from another constellation and I'm here and I have to believe everything you bring, but I'm not sure if I should consider you what the whole group is saying about you. I'm not sure if you're an alien, maybe not even a creature, maybe you're just a hologram, maybe you're part of a control mechanism that accompanies us through this illusion or new mythology. I don't know, I'm asking myself. I thought maybe you were just part of the system.- And he told me: - You think I'm not real. Use the same statement to yourself. Ask yourself to what extent you're real. - I used the same thing, I looked at myself and found that I didn't even know who I was. So we got to the same level. And I'm glad he answered like that, because he put me in front of the right question - Who am I and what am I doing here? And I accepted his answer. I don't need to know if it really comes from Apu, a planet in the constellation Alpha Centauri. I just wanted to be wise.

- I think you want to wake up, because people who are vigilant will get to the truth faster, to the pure truth, not to the one that is wrapped around all those illusions on this planet. There have been answers throughout your communication to the question about your role, why are you here?

- It's interesting, they don't answer questions directly as we would like. RAMA is one contact among many and on an individual level we are all different. When I left RAMA, I had other experiences that made more sense to what I experienced in RAMA.

- I understand, I've talked to several people who have met aliens. They feel the same way. They receive more answers at the individual level regarding their mission. Many people want to know the truth and work to unite humanity so that we can have contact with the universe.

Why are you here? Why are you in California? Why did you leave Lima, Peru, leave a culture that is much less destructive, more open than the United States? How do you feel?

- Thanks to encounters with extraterrestrial beings, I have realized that by spreading consciousness on a personal level, one also elevates the whole community. I experienced a very serious personal crisis in Peru, I got very close to death and I realized that my mission is not in Peru.

- We talked about making contact. I don't think we're very ready for that, because the aliens are so above us, they're so developed. I don't even know how we would connect with them, how we would talk to them. We could connect with them with our hearts. But a person must be good at it to connect with them.

- A person can be evil in a good way. They don't pay attention to who is good and who is bad. I don't think they judge us this way. They only see who is raising the vibrations towards them. I no longer believe in bad or good people. I think we all have the potential to open our hearts. I have seen people who have been in a bad situation for a long time and have become very humble. I think we all have the opportunity to expand our consciousness.

- When you talk about increasing vibrations, do you mean that you have to be at a certain vibrational level at that moment in order to be able to communicate with them? And does it always mean meditation?

- No, not always. You can be in meditation when you are awake. If you have been meditating for a long time, you can be in that state even when you are talking to people or shopping. You should achieve a level of inner balance between the physical, the mental and the spiritual.

- How did you achieve inner balance? Did she come as a result of tragedy or training?

- Aliens mention a state of consciousness, which they call the fourth dimension of consciousness. In the RAMA, this is referred to as the level we can reach as humanity. When it started talking about it, I didn't care at all. I was interested in meetings, I wanted their spaceships to land, I wanted to meet beings. Then they invited me to their ship and I thought I was ready. I kept talking about it: - I'm ready. - My friends were there.

- Where was that?

- It was in the usual location in Lima by the sea. Or it was clear we saw the ship fly by. My friends shouted, - Look, there! - And I said, - I'm bored, I want to be inside. That night, it was about 3 o'clock in the morning, I felt the same energy that had flowed through my head before. This time I felt it in my chest. I slept and suddenly I felt zzzz-zzzz. It passed through my chest and came out of my back. Then I opened my eyes and saw an alien. He was huge, his head bent so as not to touch the ceiling. He had his palms open and a blue light came out of them towards my chest. I thought it was a dream. Then he held his hand over me. I felt something in my chest and that feeling was very real. At that time, I was trying to receive messages using automatic fonts. I shot out my hand and touched it. He was so huge that when he took a step, he was on the other side of the bed. He held me and I felt warm. Thinking I was awake, I looked out the window and saw a bright pulsing light. That's when I looked at him. He said, "Are you ready?"

- I understand.

"I let go of his hands, stepped back, and said, 'No, I can't do it, I'm sorry.'

- I know, it's terrible. Were you ready for later?

- Not until a few months later. That's when he told me the time was right. He didn't leave, he came closer to me, he put his hands on me. I lost consciousness. When I woke up, I felt like I was drinking the night before. I ran to the bathroom and vomited. I spat out something like a very hard dark stone. I think he had healing power. 6 months later, in a dream, I was invited to a meeting: - We invite you, Lorenzo and Miguel. - They were friends from the group. We didn't have to talk to each other, we had to come to the agreed place at the appointed time. It was in the desert of Chilc. I went there without saying anything. I took my backpack, my sleeping bag and came to the place. There is no city or lights in the area. The first night I waited for friends. The next night I was very scared because I saw the ships at night. I told them I wasn't ready without friends. I went to sleep. The place where I was is surrounded by small hills and there is a passage between them. I woke up around 5 o'clock in the morning. I noticed a thick white mist coming at me through the passage. When I saw it, I thought it wasn't normal. I didn't want to be there, but it was the only way to the highway. I didn't want the fog to reach me. I took my things and went. I didn't want to perceive the fog, I just went and went.

- Could it not be a desert storm?

- No, the desert storm is different, this was fog, thick fog. I was going to the passage when I suddenly found myself in the fog. I told myself I wouldn't stop, I kept walking. Suddenly I heard footsteps. I thought it was an echo of my own steps. I thought everything was fine, nothing happened. I went on. Then I heard a sound so loud that my ears almost exploded. It was as if a large piece of metal had fallen to the ground in the middle of nowhere. It was close to me. I sat down and prayed: - Please, I'm not ready, I don't want to experience anything today, I'm not ready. When I stopped, I noticed something that was either making or absorbing the fog, moving around to my left. I turned in that direction and noticed the silhouette of a very tall guy. He was at least 270 cm. I walked towards the bus stop, got on and looked at my watch - it was 1 o'clock in the afternoon. The walk from there lasted only 4 hours. So it should only be 9 o'clock in the morning. I lost a few hours and I don't know what happened in the meantime.

- Do not you know what happened?

- In self-hypnosis, because I'm a hypnotherapist, I got to the place where I turned to that guy and we went to some kind of arch together. I went through that arc. We were in the middle of a space where the pyramids were burning orange. We stood under them and that's all.

- You think he picked you up where? Was it through a portal?

- I know for a fact that he took me to a place and gave me information about my trip to another country that I needed. I know for a fact that he put into me a program that I should have followed and that I should have remembered consciously. So I was actually sent to another place. After this experience, I almost drowned in the ocean. I swam with my friends very early in the morning. I was ..

- Was it in Peru?

- In Peru, in Lima. Suddenly the ocean stormed. Friends slept on the beach, I fought for my life alone. I thought I was going to die. No one was there, the friends were asleep, it was very early in the morning. I asked for at least 5 minutes to say goodbye to my family, friends, anyone. I fought and suddenly I saw someone swim. About 50 meters from me swam a man, he looked very strong. I thought someone had sent him to save me, so I swam to him as I ruled. When I was 5 meters away from him, he raised his head, looked at me and said: - Please help me, I'm drowning!

- Did he tell you that?

- Yes, he told me, so there were two of us. I couldn't believe the bad joke. I complained to God. I turned my back on the man, I didn't care at all, I didn't want to die. I tried to swim towards the shore. But as I swam, I realized that if I left the man here, if I escaped without him, I would be as dead as I am now. He's the only family I have, he's the family I asked for, what am I running away from?

- Was that an alien?

- No.

- Was that a man?

- He was human. I swam to meet him. I got closer to him. He was very frightened, he cried. I thought we'd either get out together or go to the other side together, but we'll be fine. We started fighting together and we felt a moment when we were no longer in control. They weighed our arms and legs. The ocean was still pulling us back. But I was proud of the brother next to me, I felt a love for all of humanity and everything, and I realized that it's actually okay that this is the best way to leave. I couldn't say anything more. I just smiled at him and he realized that's it. And then something like an explosion of life came from my chest in all directions and the ocean calmed down. Suddenly he was as calm as a cup of tea. We wondered what happened. The moment I accepted that I was going to die, I accepted the peace, the whole ocean calmed down. We came out of the water. I left him on the shore, didn't even ask his name, and went to my towel. My friend woke up and said: - Enrique, I had a dream. We will go to the USA and live there for a while. - And I said, - I think so.

- So you got here.

- I realized that day that we were not here for ourselves. We are here for others. If I tried to save only myself then, I would probably die. He saved me. I realized that every time you try to save someone, you save yourself, you save humanity. I knew I would get to an exceptional place. I applied for visas to Russia, China and the USA. I got a visa to the US and so I came here.

I realized that we are like needles in acupuncture. We are exactly where we need to be to activate the network at that location. The number 33 has always been referred to in RAMA as an activator of consciousness. I think we're on the 33rd parallel in California, I'm not sure someone told me that. We are in a place where we live for a reason. I'm sure the program they put in my mind is about what I'm doing now.

- Your story is very interesting, can you tell us another story in Chester?

- I'm not sure what you mean.

- You said you had several meetings in Chester.

- No, only one in 2012. We camped in Chester on September 21-22. I separated from the group. I saw a bright light in the forest and for a moment I thought I would meditate. There was a hill in the distance and 50m from it behind the trees I noticed movement. I thought they were tourists from Chester, they looked like people. They were dressed as cyclists in full jerseys.

- In cycling jerseys.

- They were in white, from a distance I noticed that they have long blond hair. I didn't want to think about anything at that moment. It wasn't a common place or time to meet, I thought they were tourists. I averted my face and continued to meditate. I felt something, I was surprised. I looked again. A man separated from the group. He had long hair, a muscular body, but he was not as tall as the one I had met years ago. Then I felt that this man's name was Santiago. We at RAMA communicated with him using automatic fonts.

- How did he call?

- Santiago. It comes from a base on Venus. There are colonies of the Pleiades. He greeted me with a show of hands. I thought: - Stay there and send me any information. I can't stop it. Then the woman separated from the group in the background and went down. It was definitely a female character. She wore high boots and walked straight down. She turned and walked towards me as if she were walking on a pier. It was strange, because I heard her footsteps, I turned and looked down. Her feet did not touch the ground. I was shocked, it wasn't normal. I sat on the stump, leaned back, and closed my eyes. I heard footsteps, standing right in front of me. As if she was holding me. It reminded me of times when we were together in the past in this life and in another place I don't remember. Maybe she memorized something that didn't really happen, it's just nice.

I remember in 1995 I was sitting in a car in San Jose. Suddenly I felt like I was about to have a heart attack, I felt like my animal was busting. At that moment, I said to myself that I wanted to know what was going on. This isn't me, what's going on? I closed my eyes and saw me flying through the sky, I saw something twisting around in a spiral. Then it stopped and I saw a headline in the newspaper: Air Crash (Accidente de avión in Spanish). And from one word and A from the other, they touched and merged into the American Airlines logo. Suddenly I was on a plane. Someone was shouting something and pointing at something. Then came a powerful explosion. Then the vision was repeated. I was on the plane again, someone shouted and everyone turned around. I noticed a soft light outside. I knew it wasn't common. And then someone called me and pulled me out of that vision. I had a cell phone in my car. I thought I had to prevent the misfortune. I started working with my mind to protect the plane with the light, I tried everything I learned in RAMA. I was then at work, working in San José, and when I got home, I turned on the TV. There were reports of an American Airlines plane crash in Colombia. 19 people died. I was furious. I asked them what their abilities were when they couldn't use them. I remember going to my room and crying, I was angry, I complained. Suddenly I felt that energy again and flew to the scene of the accident. It was night. There were flames everywhere. I saw spaceships that were not in the news. I landed and saw the creatures there, and among them was Amitak, the woman I met in Chester. She told me: - Today, flames are not important. You are here to do the work that people have to do. We don't save anyone, we teach you how to save yourself.- I asked her: - Why didn't you save the plane? You were there! You could use your technology and help him land! - She replied: - Sometimes we do, but we have to change the time. But sometimes we can't do it because the karma or energy of that group of people is too strong. In that case, you have to help. - I asked: - What should I do? - She answered me: - Look around. Inside everyone were trapped people, each with his own version of misfortune. There was a man reading a newspaper when he suddenly heard someone shout and an explosion ensued. Then he repeated the event over and over. Amitak came up to him, stepped into the bubble, grabbed him by the shoulders, and said, "It's over, it's not real anymore." She took him out, the bubble disappeared, and he realized he was no longer in his physical body. He also began to help others. Amitak told me that they had created a time capsule because energy could easily be released into the collective consciousness. If that happened, humanity's vibrations would be reduced.

- Towards fear?

- Exactly.

- So it was fear.

- They tried to protect us from the collective fear of that group. So now that the event has happened, the energy is still stuck there and the higher consciousness in man must fix it. So they call us and many do this work subconsciously. Many who were there like me were unaware, thinking it was just a dream. But we did the work, we chose consciousness out of fear to make people realize where they are. Then, when we freed all the people, we shook hands and summoned the light that descended in the form of a cylinder. We entered and beings that no longer had physical bodies simply left.

- It's like the experience of life after death for people who die violently.

- Yes, and aliens help us become mediators in these experiences.

- It's similar to the work you do. You help people with their problems. So you do what your mission is. And you do it because you are aware of the consequences in their lives. You don't do it because you have an hour. You do it for the collective consciousness.

- We're part of everything. We help the whole group to raise consciousness to the next level.

- I could talk to you like this all night. At the end of this interview, what advice would you give to people who are not so far away, what would you tell them how to change their thinking? Something other than becoming vegetarian and meditating, which many already do. What kind of thinking would help us?

- We mentioned fear and we must realize that there are only two feelings - love and fear. One is real, the other is not. Whenever we focus our attention on fear, our almighty mind begins to create the conditions for fear. So try to use all your strength to create what is full of love, peace, understanding. We have the strength to do it, we can use it. When we collectively focus only on fear and bad things, we will intentionally create more of them. Let's search in our minds, realize where the idea is going and what we really want. If we realize that this idea is something we do not want, let's stop, forgive ourselves for thinking that way, and focus on the opposite. I understand, I love, I help. You will see that reality will change before your eyes. When we change our thinking, miracles can happen. Power does not move physical things, force is the cause of all reality, and the cause is in the mind. You do not need a timid mind, you need a mind that is loving. And that will strengthen our position at a higher vibrational level.

- And then, in our collective consciousness, we will be ready to make contact with the aliens.

- We're capable of it, but we can not understand it for fear.

- Thank you very much, it was amazing.

- Thank you for the opportunity.

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